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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2014.04.15 20:35:00 -
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As a dedicated Eve Online player who has been playing since 2008 and has understood New Eden economics on a lot of levels, I can say that it's a safe bet that Boosters should be allowed to be traded for ISK. In that, that will actually benefit players who have a lot of ISK but no cash and also players who have a lot of cash but don't want to grind too much for ISK.
The best part about this idea is that ISK is not really generated at all in this process. ISK will only be transferred from one player to another with some loss of ISK due to broker fees or taxes.
PLEX is already a prime example of this in Eve Online and so far the market for it is booming and it gives Eve Online players alternative means to extend their game time if they are not willing to pay cash.
Conclusion: Let it happen, CCP. Boosters traded between players for ISK will be a good thing.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2014.04.15 20:40:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Providing a legitimate in-game channel for real money trading is one of the better ways of combating illicit RMT.
So either selling Aurum items for ISK, or directly selling Aurum for ISK, is likely to be somewhere in the mix I'd say.
This is also another benefit to this idea. PLEX in Eve Online has been effective in combating illegal RMT operations since now Eve players won't need to pay cash to a third party for ISK. CCP provides that instead via the player-to-player market. It's amazing how a free-market system works.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2014.04.15 20:57:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:in my opinion anything that we can buy or have in our mercs possession should be fair game for the market.
I know many dustbros hate comparisons to eve, but anything you can get there can be traded freely and this game takes place in that universe and will be fully integrated into eve eventually if ccp stays true it its vision for these 2 games.
the item in eve that stands out the most to me to compare to boosters is plex which can freely be traded and stolen from players in eve. I don't see why boosters should be treated differently, or for that matter any other item including bpo's.
Exactly. There are super rare items in Eve that you can't get anywhere unless you know someone and yet they are freely traded in the market. Examples:
Sansha Nation Revenant Super Carrier. There are only 2 existing in the market. There use to be a third, until...
http://broskinorth.derzorn.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=29265
According to Forbes.com, the estimated real-world value of the ship loss was $9,000 fully fitted.
Source:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/07/09/eve-online-player-loses-a-spaceship-worth-approximately-9000/
Since now there are only 2 left in the market, their value has increased. Yet this ship is still freely tradable if you happen to have enough ISK and know the only two players in the game who happen to own one.
Then there are the Tech 2 BPOs that exist in Eve Online. Those are still freely traded if you know who owns one. These BPOs are totally ultra rare since CCP no longer gives them out.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:57:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:+1
Totally agree with this. But we would need a good pricing on them. Yes I can see them becoming the PLEX of Dust, however I wouldn't want to pay 750 million isk (current average price on a PLEX) for a booster.
Prices should be set by the players only. The laws of supply and demand will ensure that prices stay under control. And to make absolutely sure on top of that, your greed will make sure of it.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:22:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Approved.
But, Boosters should be purchasable with ISK anyways, if for no reason other than clearing up the P2W argument.
Only through the secondary player-run market should boosters be sold for ISK.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.04.16 23:29:00 -
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Patrilicus wrote:I think doing so would make it way too easy to AFK and still make mad sp.
I hate AFKers that spin in the MCC or hide deep in the redzone so if there is an idea that makes AFKing more desirable then I'm against it.
I would be ok with the idea of being able to buy boosters with isk through the marketplace if they did 2 things first. 1) Have the same redlines for both sides on all maps (a map border rather than different red zones depending on the side. 2) Force players to leave the MCC or be booted due to idling.
I just don't like the idea of a player spinning for sp with omega boosters and not having to pay real money to do so.
As far as selling and trading items player to player I'm ok with that but it had better be secure as hell. There would be too much temptation for thieves and hackers. Most crimes are crimes of opportunity.
Secure transactions, yes. But be warned that CCP sees scams, ransoming, extortion, and corp theft as legitimate gameplay tactics in New Eden. As a result the secondary market will see an influx of both honest traders and scheming merchants which will further add another later to the dynamics of DUST.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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